Hi everybody its Freddie and Mummy dogs dads .
Sunday evening Teddy bear (who is the father of all our babies and Mummy dogs life partner who we lost 4 weeks ago)
had a fit in our kitchen we thought he was chocking on something so i did first aid and mouth to nose to bring him back his mouth was blue and he had glazed over I really thought we had lost him but with the rescue breaths was enough air to bring him back ! As you could imagine we are beside ourselves wrapping him in cotton wool so to speak ! Then last nite at 1.38 am I woke hearing something hitting the cupboard I turned the light on and he was having a bad fit I had to grab his tongue because he was choking again then when he was coming out of it he made 2 noises that made our blood curdle it was horrible. He is 14 We know he is old I took him to to vet today (I rang my vet sunday nite ) took bloods and urine get the results tomorrow so now we have the chose of medication to control the seizures but we are very unsure about the side affects ect ! The other path we could take is the natural one I have a friend that has a great naturapath !

WE ARE CONFUSED IN WHAT TO DO IT IS ALL ABOUT HIS QUALITY OF LIFE WE ARE OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS !

Warren and Chris scared ,worried and confused

Oh Dear, Warren and Chris ... Hang in there, Dear Ones! I want to do some googling. Okay, dumb question I know but what breed of doggie again? I know he's small, male and 14 years old but cannot recall the breed ... I'll be back shortly for your answer ...

Hang in there, Dear Ones! Hang in there! Tons of Hugs and Here I Go >>>>>

I'm so sorry to hear of Teddy Bear. I understand your confusion and how scared you must be. I personally have never experienced that kind of situation with an animal. But others here have and I'm sure you will get some good advise. 14 is long life, but....I would defenitely try whatever medication the vet offers and hope for the best. Please keep us updated.. My prayers are with you.. Hugs.. Ann

Ditto to all that loving Ann said. Bless you, Ann! Hugs!!!

Here's what I have so far, Dearest Warren and Chris ...

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Ask-Veterinaria...es-old-dogs.htm

"Question:
My dog is 10 years old and he started having seizures, he had 2 last night. What causes these to start.
Thanks Diane

Answer:
That is a very hard question to answer specifically. There are many things that can cause seizures in older dogs. Sometimes it is distemper (old dog encephalopathy) even though the dog was vaccinated. Sometimes it is liver or kidney disease causing toxins that can't get out of the blood to affect the brain. Sometimes it is heart disease causing poor oxygen perfusion to the brain. Dogs eat all kinds of things around the house, so it could be something he ingested. Head trauma can also affect the brain causing seizures. You should have your vet check the dog."

Here's another website ...

http://www.canine-epilepsy.com/Why.html

Okay, I'm going back in to get specific information about Yorkshire Terriers. This may take a little while. Hang in there! Okay?

Tons of Hugs, Love, Prayers and Healing Angels!!!

Always,
Dottie xoxoxox

Warren and Chris-------Offering Prayers to the Big Guy ----------I'll do my best-----Bubba.........

Here's some more, Warren and Chris . . .

I have a 14 year old Yorkshire Terrier. I think he may have had a seizure?

My daughter said he was flopping on the ground as if someone was hurting him. Other people present said he was limping and bumping into the walls. When my husband got there, the dog kept backing away from my husband and he was just acting very strange. this is the first time we've seen this. does anyone know what could have happenened.

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First thing is first, people have came in the vet with their animals and was freaking out which is understandable. The main source of the problem honestly is the owner not reading the flea treatment boxes. Have you applied any form of flea med on the dog within the last few days? If so did you apply the correct amount? If you apply to much it is very toxic to them and they normally go into conclusions and anaphylactic shock. If this is not this than I HIGHLY suggest going to the vet and having them look for Portosystemic Shunt, which is also called Liver Shunt. Portosystemic Shunt is a bypass of the liver by the body's circulatory system. In other words, not proper blood flow or none to the liver which can result into seizures. It mostly found in small breed dogs. If you have anymore questions please feel free to email me. I hope this gave you some insight. Good luck.

Pharmacy & Vet Tech

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Tons of Hugs, More Prayers and Angels!!!

Always,
Dottie xoxoxox

You will be getting tests results today. I would discuss everything with the vet and ask him what the diagnosis is. What are the medication side effects? What does the Medication do? Will it stop the seizures? What is the next sign to look for?


You are lucky if they have medication now to control seizures. I had to put down a 3 year old dog years ago because he was diagnosed with epilepsy. There was no cure or medication. His seizures started and went from one a week, to 2, to 3, and the vet said what would happen was that he would choke on his own tongue. Which could happen when I was at work.

I see the first one was Sunday and the second was Monday....something is happening fast.
(When my cat, Little Guy, had an emergency last year...the vet said his mouth was blue due to
lack of oxygen..his chest had filled with fluid (x-rays showed) and the fluid would not allow him to expand his lungs to breathe.)

When you mentioned mouth being blue...and seizures....I thought of my own experiences with those symptoms.

I would definitely talk to the vet and see the test results...and hopefully find a diagnosis. It is so hard to treat what you don't know is the cause.

Good Luck to you and to your Teddy Bear. As far as natural treatment...again..it is better to know the diagnosis and also know how much time you have to try something. It sounds very scary when he has a seizure..hopefully it will not occur daily..and that you have time to try medications or whatever may help. Again, ask about side effects (you sounded concerned) and you have to decide how his quality of life is and will be. If the seizures can be controlled..that could buy all of you more time together.

Ditto to everything LoveThem said and ... LoveThem, I am so very sorry to hear about your own experience with your 3 year old doggie fur kid who had epilepsy. I pray it's different for Warren's and Chris's fur kid.

Warren and Chris, please do let us know how things are when you get the chance, Dear Ones. Okay?

Big Comforting Hugs and Many Loving Angels to you both and your Fur Kids!!!

Your Pal Always,
Dottie xoxoxox

HI all just got his results back he has final stages of kidney diease we are taking him to the vet to have some fluilds pushed thru to flush his system we really do not want to leave him over nite he has never been away from his family .The vet said we could give him the fluids oraly but the IV I feel will work better .I am searching the web for answers all going well we will take him to the naturpath for some natural treatment as this seems to work with some great results .Once again any advice would be greatly appreciated !
Warren *********x

{{{{{{{Warren}}}}}}} I'm so sorry to hear this. How is he doing right now? At least they're not making you leave him at the Vet and he's at home with his family. Is he resting comfortably?

Tons of Comforting Hugs to You, Chris and your Teddy Bear boy!!!

Always,
Dottie xoxoxox

Hi Dottie, We just left him with the vet ,this was a hard choice not taken lightly .But we think this is the responsible way to go . The vet is going to push some fluids tru him for 2 days. We could of tryed this at home by giving him fluids but taking into count that he had another fit last nite we just wont to do what is best for him .We hate leaving him but what were we to do . I am searching the web for some advice, When he gets home tom nite we want to be prepared to help him in any way we can .From what we have read diet and distiled water seems to be affective in slowing it down .He seems bright enough this morning but needs to be near me all the time he trusts us so much it is so hard feeling so helpless not being able to help him ,at least we have saved him from 3 fits so far but he is very confused for about 2 hours afterwards .We have hardly slept for the last 3 nites worring that he might have a fit during the nite hopefully the fluids then a diet change might stop the fits and give him a better quality of life .We really cant think about loosing him and we are both in denile about it .Loosing another baby would just be to much to bear after the year we have had with loosing his son and partner.
Trying to stay positive at the moment and take one day at a time
Warren *********x

Good grief Warren!

You've certainly had more than your share of grief and worry this year. I'm so sorry to hear that Teddy is not doing well. I hope and pray the vet will be able to stop the seizures and make it possible for him to come home. In the meantime, you can bet I will keep all of you in my prayers.

Hugs,
Beth

{{{{{{{Warren}}}}}}} You did the right thing ... Really the only thing and best thing for your fur baby. My heart is breaking for you, Chris and your fur baby. Many tears ...

Okay, Calling All Angels! Please, proceed directly to Warren and Chris's fur baby and also to Warren and Chris!!! Thank you, Angels!!!

God Bless and Many Comforting Hugs!!!

Your Pal Always,
Dottie xoxoxox

Warren,

Ask your vet about the Greta Implantable Fluids tube, and if he hasn't heard of it seek out another vet in your area who has. My 24 year old cat was diagnosed with chronic renal failure 2 years ago, and he is doing quite well with fluids administered by me at home, very easily with th GIF tube. I have been told that this does not work quite as well with dogs as it does felines...and that may be so, but I can't confirm that.

It may be a long shot, but I think it would be worth investigating.


Love to you and Teddy,
Dayna

Thanks everyone ,Thank god for guiding me to this site all those months ago you all are really wonderful souls out there !
Thanks for the heads up on the Greta Implantable Fluids tube,Im looking into it and at least I feel we are doing all that we can . Investigating all avenues keeps some hope in our hearts and that people just dont see it as a lost cause and there is nothing that can be done .Like all the beautiful people on this site we will do ANYTHING to help Teddy Bear or at least make him comfortable Please keep the suggestions coming they really help
Warren ******x

Awww, Warren. You and Chris are the BESTEST Fur Kid Dads what could be!!! Ya know we luvs ya to bits and pieces!!! Please keep us posted and if I find out any new information, I'll be sure to let you know, too.

More Big Comforting Hugs and Many Loving Angels!!!

Your Pal Always,
Dottie xoxoxox

HE MADE IT THRU THE NITE ! Now we wait and hope that the fluid treatment has worked . We pick him up this afternoon and hopefully we can maintain his fluids there is a glimmer of hope so thank you all for your prayers a little miracle has happened ! will keep you all posted on how he is going .
Warren

{{{{{Warren}}}}} That is good news! Your Teddy Bear fur kid is in my thoughts and prayers for continued recovery and comfort. Please know that you and Chris are in my thoughts and prayers, too!

Tons of Hugs, Lotsa Love and Winging Many Angels to All of You!!!

Your Pal Always,
Dottie xoxoxox

Hi everyone this is a long shot but does anyone know if bird seed or feces are toxic to dogs we think he might of ate some as when mummy died 4 weeks ago we started feeding the native birds there are lots of seed ect under the feed tray could this have been the cause of his seizures ??????????????????????????????????????/
Warren *********x

Somewhere I saw a comprehensive list of plants, foods, and common household substances that are toxic to canines...I'm trying to find that for you.


As soon as I can I'll send you the link,
Hugs to TB. meanwhile,
Dayna

Thanks heaps some sites say yes some say no very confusing .I have made sure that he cant get to it not feeding them anymore and have cleaned up around the floor Im grasping at straws but who knows !

Warren ***x

We just got him home now for 3 hours its so glad to have him back I have never being so excited to go to the vet .I asked the vet about the bird droppings but he did not think this was the reason for the seizures more than likely the kidneys failing. So the vet pushed tru fluids for 30 hours to flush the toxins ,now we give him a dog sports drink every 15mins to keep him hydrated and to flush the kidneys .We are putting him on a modified diet and no more dry biscuits . Hopefully this will stabilize him and from what we have read dogs CAN live healthy lives for 2 to 4 years .He is old being 14 but that doesn't mean a death sentence we could still have some years left in him yet caring for him properly and being strict about administering his fluids and diet We are still very worried as we are not out of the woods yet but fingers crossed ! .As you all know we are so so happy to have him home .Lastly any of you guys in countries that have kidney dialysis are lucky (if you can afford it ) because we don't have that option here in Australia .We are a very small country but you would think the option would be there ! We are not rich but we would find the money somehow for this as dialysis is the best thing he could have .Well i will keep you all posted and any advice is always welcome
Warren and Chris praying with fingers crossed ******x

My name is Michele. I'm new here and I empathize greatly with your post. My baby, a smart mellow, Bichon Frise, developed seizures. It's very hard, terribly frightening because the reaction is to assist. The seizures that my dog "Wally" had, were Grand Mal seizures, people have them as well. Phenobarbital is a drug given to humans with Epilepsy and my Vet prescribed that medication.

I know the sounds. Is your pet frothing or urinating during these events? Please know that I have been through it and I can only tell you how my Wally went through them and how OUR VET explained them. We learned so much that is helpful for "Teddy Bear" if these continue. There is hope and sometimes it goes away.

We always talked to "Wally" during these frightening experiences. I hope you have a great Vet. who really listens to your feelings.
You are not alone in your experience.

Michele- West Coast- Oregon

Thanks Michele , Firstly he made it tru the nite with NO SEIZURES we are very happy that he might have stabilized not having any seizures for the last two nites.I phoned the vet this morning and he was very pleased with his progress. The seizures were terrifying to us ! luckily I grew up on a farm and have fairly good animal husbandry skills ,he has no teeth left so making sure his airway is open and clear is by depressing my finger on the back of his tongue but it still freaks you out because we feel so so helpless.Fingers crossed they have gone with flushing fluids thru him.The vet seems to think it is fluids that he needs rather than drugs.We are taking it one day at a time at the moment.Every minute we spend with him is like a wonderful gift !
Warren ************************

Warren, you have no idea how happy I am for you and your baby. All the best.. Ann

Warren and Chris, my heart sank when I saw your first post. You two have been through a really tough year. Thank goodness you knew what to do when Teddy Bear had the seizure. I hope that the fluid treatments will eliminate the seizures. It sounds as though you have a good/supportive vet. I will pray for Teddy Bear to recover and pray for you two as well.

This is really good news about Teddy Bear. And yes, every day we can still have them with us is a blessed day indeed. I wish you two and Teddy Bear many more days with quality to life.

He knows you are helping him. Give him a hug and a kiss on the nose! Such a good boy!

4 nights NO seizures we are so so happy and relived .Hopefully we have stabilized him with the fluid treatment ,He is eating his new diet drinking by him self playing with the other dogs ,barking at the door,its great.We still watch him closely monitoring him all the time.We have an appointment with a naturopath who works with animals she sounded great on the phone and told me she can definately help build up his kidneys and immune system with natural herbs ect..This is working in conjunction with our wonderful vet!.We will take more bloods probably Tuesday so we will know more after we get his results.Our vet who we trust impeccably has said there is really know guide to what might happen as every animal responds in different ways to treatment but the main thing was to stabilize him so we hopefully we are over the first hurdle.Will keep you all posted but once again thank you all so much your support as always has been fantastic ! If anyone has any advice on kidney failure or has been thru this we would luv to hear about it
Warren *********x,

Oh My Gosh!!! That is great news, Warren!!! I'm so pleased for you and Teddy Bear!!!

What a wonderful Vet you have, too. Explains everything to you and takes so much time and care. That's wonderful! Please do let us know how everything turns out on Teddy Bear's Tuesday vet visit. Okay? Okay! You, Chris and Teddy Bear remain in my thought and prayers as I wing many Angels to all of you!!!

Tons of Hugs, Love, Hope and Peace to All of You!!!

Your Pal Always,
Dottie xoxoxox

It has been 7 nights 8 days seizure free !!!!!!!!!! It looks like we have stabilized him with the fluid treatment we just went to the vet for more blood tests ,will have the results back tom afternoon.Hopefully the kidneys have got some function back fingers crossed ! and many prayers.
Warren *********

Well we just got the blood results back from the vet his creatine and urea has dropped by half but is still very high his creatine levels should be between 30-90 they were 595 now they are down to 295 still quite high but at least they have dropped same as the urea so here is hoping that they continue to drop will keep you all posted !
Warren (feeling a bit relived)

OH MY GOSH!!! How did I miss this! Dearest Warren, I so much have a song in mind that I want to post here in thanks for this that I believe you, Chris and Teddy Bear will enjoy so much! May I? It's fun and ... Well, may I? Love you to bits and Yay!

Tons of Hugs, Love, Peace and Many Angels for You Both and Continued Recovery to Teddy Bear!!!

Your Pal Always,
Dottie xoxoxox

PS. It's okay if you don't want me to post that song but it's sure fitting, Dear ones.

Dropped by half?! Wow! Okay, I know it's still high but this still sounds promising.

Warren, I gotta post that song. Is it okay? No hard feelings if not. I promise hand to my heart, Dear One! HUGS!!!

Is it okay with you, Chris and Teddy Bear? Love You All so Much!!!

Your Pal Always,
Dottie xoxoxox

Oh, I see you've signed off. Well, here's something that goes out to the two bestest fur baby daddies and dedicated to continued recovery to Teddy Bear as I wing Many Angels to you all!!!






More Hugs, Love, Faith, Hope, Peace and Many Angels to Warren, Chris and Teddy Bear!!!


Your Pal Always,
Dottie xoxoxox

Dearest Dottie,We love that movie ! and anything you ever send me is always ok because I know it's from your heart Yes the levels are still very high BUT he is stable and seems to be happy.He is 14 so we are still taking one day at a time.Some questions are now coming up like his quality of life verses pain and suffering while he is stabilizing we will monitor him closely I would never want him to suffer.From what we have read and talked with the vet about, Teddy more than likely would of not remembered the seizures that he was out to it.He came to the park today for a walk and you would not think anything was wrong with him.Who knows how long he may live but we know in our hearts that we have and will do the right thing by him .He has been the most faithful loyal loving companion and best best friend for 14 wonderful years so far so he deserves the most high quality care we can give him.Caring for him and all the events that have taken place over the last week has drawn us away from all the pain of loosing Mummy .We still miss her and Freddie so much but they will remain in our hearts forever and that can never be taken away ! but we need to focus on our beautiful family that remains and keep them health and happy for many more years to come
Love always your friend Warren *********x

Awww {{{{{Warren}}}}} You and Chris are the bestest! You know that Teddy Bear remains in my prayers as do you and Chris!
Also your fur Angels Freddie and Abby!

Love Your Friend Always,
Dottie xoxoxox

Hi, Warren. I'm Mike. I've lost 4 dogs over the past few years... 2 to acute renal (kidney) failure. 2 to liver cancer.

It sounds like your pup is having issues with chronic renal disease, so the answers are different.

Follow the symptoms. If Teddy Bear is eating, that's great. Loss of appetite is a sign of a worsening problem. The vet will probably want to put him on a kidney diet... if he does, do it. It makes for less work for the kidneys, and will hopefully keep Teddy Bear ticking happily along.

To have this happen so soon after your loss seems really unfair. I'll keep you, and your family, in my thoughts. God bless.



"If dogs don't go to heaven when they die, then I want to go where they do"
Will Rogers

Thanks Mike,
I am sorry to hear of the loss of your fur babies.Yes the vet has put him on a kidney diet we bought some tins of it home with him but after reading about this food we were a bit worried so after taking him to the homeopath he is now on NINGA RED ,kidney tonic and fresh organic beef mince with grated carrot ,parsley and spinach .We are giving him fluids every 40 mins! We are amazed at his reaction to the fluid therapy ,diet and the tonics.The NINGA RED is all organic with wolfberrys from China being the main ingredient with fantastic healing properties. So for the moment we have our little boy back! he seems happy, nearly back to his old self its fantastic we are so relieved that we have stablized him and that he is happy. The vet will do more bloods in a fortnight so heres hoping that his kidneys have some function and his levels continue to drop. His creatinine is down to 295 from 595 but should be 30-90 so its still very very high.
Will keep everyone posted
Warren

Here is a photo of Teddy Bear ! [ attachment=2989:Image_00014.jpg]

Such a sweet picture of Teddy Bear!

I am watching your topic and reading your updates....so far...what you have accomplished is truly wonderful.

It is one day at a time and there are good positive pictures in your updates. Please keep them coming.

Hi everyone ! Well it has been 3 weeks tom since his last seizure.He has bounced back so well we never thought we would have him with us after those awful seizures.So we go for more blood tests tom at the vet ,we are not changing anything keeping him on his fluids every 40 mins ! We also have him on NINGA RED which is made from wolfberries is the main ingredient, his eyes that were going that cloudy blue colour but have changed in a week to a beautiful dark brown this really does work if any of you have animals with bad eyes give the NINGA RED ago !
I will keep you all posted on his progress ! We still think it might have been ACUTE rather than CHRONIC kidney disease if it is acute then there is a chance we can reverse the damage and rebuild the kidneys !
Warren ****************** Click to view attachment

Super, Wonderful! So glad he's doing better. Adorable too...Ann

Great news!!!!

Beautiful, I'm so happy to hear that news. many, many kisses to T. B.



love,
Dayna

Warren, thank you for the wonderful news on Teddy Bear's health. I am so happy that you can continue loving your baby.

HI Everyone just a quick update on Teddy .He is doing so much better playing with his son and daughters barking running around ! We treasure every moment with him We do not know how long he has left but how ever long it is we treasure it so much just having him back after the seizures is a gift from god !We could not bear to lose another baby this year it is still to all so raw after Freddie and Mummy's passing ! Sorry I have not been here for a while but my Nan who I look after (she's 98 )has been in hospital for the last month and between visiting her and giving Teddy Bear his fluids every 40 min has not let much time in my days .Nans home now and hopefully everything can come back to as near normal for this year
Warren ******************

Hi Warren, Thanks for the update. Always glad to hear things have stabalized. Wishing your family the best. Ann

I wish many, many more blessed days, weeks, years with Teddy Bear. He sounds like he is doing so well with your tremendous care.

Hugs to all of you and a special kiss on the nose for Teddy Bear!

Thanks so much for the update!

Judy

Hi everyone I just thought I had better finish this topic as Teddy Bear past away on the 14th of April at 1am I have started another topic with the details it is just to painful to have to type everything again so once again thank you all for your kind words and wonderful support !
Warren
Teddy ,Mummy and Freddies loving dad missing them all so much.

I'm so glad to hear your fur baby is doing better. It sounds like you've been getting some good advice.

We have a 19 year old cat that had seizures a couple of years ago. We took him to the emergency vet clinic where they were able to stop the seizures. Found out he had high blood pressure - (yeah, cat with high blood pressure!) - anywayhe's been on a steroid and a heart medication the past couple of years and he's doing fine. We call him our miracle kitty.

Renal failure is a lot different and will need to be closely monitored.

Sending thoughts and prayers your way!

Deanna
Michigan