I worry that she's all alone and lonely somewhere. I worry that she's scared. She was always scared in new places and scared of people she didn't know.

I worry that she's sad because she can't do the things she used to love to do.

I worry that she misses me.

I wonder about where she is, and I worry so much that she wants to come home but can't.

Magdalene

I don't have any words to relieve your worry or concerns about your lost baby. Maybe good thoughts of adoption by another family and the warmth of a good home would ease your pain. Think positive outcomes to the reason your sweet pet has not returned. May peace find it's way into your heart soon.

Your baby is safe in God's care now, whose love is greater than any a human might have. She is not afraid or alone.

Does she miss you? I'm sure she does, but not with the pain that you are feeling, because she knows that you will meet again one day and until then she is with the greatest Parent of all.


Daisy's Mommy

No, no. She's gone because she died. She was hit by a car. There's no positive outcome.

Magdalene

I worry about the same things for my Alley. Is she scared and lonely? She didn't like strangers and strange places and she was a definite "mama's girl". I worry does she think I abandoned her? Does she think I don't love her anymore.

I wish I had answers for you magdalene, but I only seem to have the same questions.


*hugs*

Oh Magdalene, I wish I could take your awful feelings and burn them somewhere with my own. Don't punish yourself asking these questions (although you will because I have found that your own mind is your worst enemy at a time like this). Just know that the time she spent with you was precious and although too short, she was loved and cherished.

This forum has helped me get through the last 5 days - God only knows where I'd be right now if I hadn't found it.

Take care.

Debbie
Sheps mama

While I agree that there is no positive outcome to losing a friend, I believe that there is a positive outcome to the whole relationship. Both you and your furbaby shared a beautiful, loving relationship. You had a better life because of her and she because of you. That her life ended does not change that. She is more than her ending.

The only way to avoid the pain is to never have known her. That means that she would have lived with someone who might not have loved her or cared for her so much. Isn't she worth the pain? Would you have wanted to miss a minute of the time you had with her in order not to suffer now?


It is a large price, but not too great for the love our furbabies give us.

Daisy's Mommy.


Also, it is natural to feel guilt when a pet dies accidently, so that may be troubling you as well. Remember that all that really counts in the end is the love you gave her.

Oh I know what you are feeling, I worry about the same things, by pal was so dependent on us, he would never walk too far away from us, and was like a shadow, I worry that he is alone, no one to "play" with, he cares about people more than other dogs, I am afraid he is missing us too!! I feel your pain honey absolutely, I am hopeful that heaven is so wonderful and he knows what I told him because I have told him so many times in his elderly years that at some point we would be apart but that I would see him again, I promised him this, so I am hopeful he heard me and will always remember that. Stay strong and send prayers.... Take Care, Tory

Magdalene

I hear you. I worry some of those things and others. One of my big ones was where was my boy for Christmas, he loved it so much, I needed him home.

We really just drive ourselves nuts thinking things like this. I know it's hard but try like I do to gently stop the thoughts when they go in this direction and think of something good. Not saying I can always do it, but I try. When I can it helps.

When we worried so long about our babies, it so hard to stop. One thing that is helping me is I tell myself he can take care of himself now, that he has hands and can open the cat food. Maybe it's silly, but it helps.

Thinking of you
Lori

My worst thoughts are what if there isn't anything else? what if Furry's beautiful body & her loving spirit really don't exist anymore & all that is left is her remains rotting away in our garden? I go out & talk to her every day, I talk to her photo's, & think of her constantly. If they are in "heaven" then I'm sure they won't be scared or lonely, but is this just an idea to comfort the ones left behind?
Judith

Judith



Perhaps 'heaven' or whatever is just an idea, but ideas have weight and we can create lots of things with our minds. Or next I have an idea from the cutting edges of science. Anyway whatever gives us comfort right now is, in fact, a good thing.

I said this in another post but, In science energy never is gone, it just changes form, and life is energy. Quantum physics wise at the end of string theory and M. theory is unity. Our brain recieves millions of images per second but can only process 2000, mostly about where we are and how we feel. So perhaps our loved ones are not gone, we just can't see them anymore. I think being alive on Earth is a way to filter out the things we know and see as a learning experience.

Love
Lori

This is how I look at it, too...at least in my stronger moments! There are many spiritual beliefs, and now scientific ones to match, that hold that thought/energy creates (and precedes) form. I've gotten much comfort from the ways that science and spiritual ideas are now mirroring each other. Deepak Chopra talks alot about such matters, so I enjoy his books and articles when I feel doubts starting to creep in...which can be quite often when I'm in the throes of grief. My mind likes to torture itself.

These kinds of questions were burning huge holes in my soul when I lost Sabin, so I started reading everything that offered some answers and hope and this is serving me fairly well now with Nissa's crossing...not totally, but better than before. It's often a major loss, one that cuts really deeply, that propels us into questioning all sorts of values, ideas and priorities. It's hell to go through, but many have said, and I now agree, that those are the things that can end up being part of the 'good' that comes from such great pain. It's just impossible for most of us to see this until we've actually made it through this dark passage. I feel for you, I really do, because I've been there, too, and have still returned there with Nissa's passing, but this time, I have a bit more hope that I'll find something worthwhile from all this searching. I have to keep reminding myself of this on a daily basis, though, and I can still feel like I'm going to go insane wondering about the details of how all this really works and what's at the start of the bodiless journey. But I DO believe we all carry on in some other 'form'. (though I'm still really upset that Nissa hasn't seemed to prove this, again, to me, as Sabin had!)

Without getting into too much detail, let me just say this....
I'm KNOW there is a Higher Plane
and
I'm SURE all our kids are there.

The part that sucks is we're stuck here hoping that it's true and missing them so much it hurts!

There has to be a Higher Plane, because, where else could those fur children have come from in the first place? There is no way that creations such as these happened accidently. I am quoting Doris Day: "animals come into this world spiritually pure, and they leave it pure." They are incapable of sin, which is to do things you know are wrong and hurtful. So there has to be a place where everything and everyone is like this. It's just a total mystery what the animals are doing here.

Science does seem to confirm the existence of the soul, in the form of energy that is never destroyed. Where, and why, the soul journeys is more mysterious, but I cannot believe that our fur children, who are such high forms of creation, do not migrate on to join beings that are like them.

I believe that they do. And that as for us, the best parts of us migrate there.

My thoughts and prayers for you and your precious lost baby. She's there all right. I am so sorry that you have been so painfully left behind.

I agree with that, and would add that Life cannot contradict Itself (by being Death/dead), or else it wouldn't be Life in the first place. So to my mind, once someone/some'thing' has lived, it cannot just die out. I'd also written here, before some of you joined this cyber-family, about my serendipitous first contact with Nissa and Sabin, and how they came to me 'preordered' according to my desires...which I believe proves that there ARE no accidents. Their appearance in my life showed me that thought does precede manifestation of form. Without thought, there IS no form. Out thoughts are THAT important, as I believe they are the basis for our very existence. (this is also why the very idea, from the infamous Descartes, that animals don't think, is totally ridiculous...and yet the world at large still operates heavily from that prejudice) We are constantly creating and co-creating, as our our beloveds.



Many animal communicators, mediums and psychics (as well as some faiths) believe that animals are here to mirror our own states of mind/emotion, to teach us to grow from that knowledge; to return to/remember our Life Plan (our decisions about what exactly we wish to experience while in the physical) so that we can continually evolve as spiritual beings (having a physical experience, temporarily), and also to experience the same general things, for their own souls, from their own Life Plans. One theme that recurrs is their loving dedication to OUR evolution. Who else would be so capable to show us the Way, than those who are so much more in-tune to our Source to begin with? (why else do you think they're so good at unconditional love?) They were made from Love, just as we were, but WE'VE forgotten, more or less, how to connect to That, and they haven't. They are wondrous gifts from our Creator, here to help us remember how to return to the state where we all came from....which is the ultimate goal, so that we no longer have to keep returning to a state where we suffer the effects of this spiritual amnesia.

So to me, the most mysterious thing about all this is WHY we allowed ourselves to forget in the first place? What purpose did we have in such a stoooopid idea? But I truly believe that the non-human species of this world hold the key to that answer, too. If you ask me, we're the 'lower' life-forms here, if anybody is (even though I'm sure we're equal, spiritually). Our beloveds are the biggest Blessings we could ever hope to have, so how could we NOT love them as we do? Those of us who have been wise enough to open ourselves to their wonders are among the most fortunate of our species...we just need to convince the non-believers!

I agree with this. I spend my time with my little ones trying to learn all the lessons they came to teach me. Each one so unique and wonderful. It's harder to learn the lessons they teach after they go. After my Butch kitty died I was so profoundly changed, for the better I think. When I think of all the furry guys I have loved and lost, it's hard to understand why I keep getting another. Then I think of all the joy they bring and all the lessons I learn, all the love we have given each other and wonder why I don't have more.
so for all you guys;
Peety (a feathered guy)
Earl
Lee Sing
Fatima
Pywacket
Smaug (not furry, scaly but a love)
Samuri
Annie (canine)
Bast
Alex
Butch
Moustache
Mommy loves all of you.
When I think of going my wish would be to wake up in a big bed with all of you there.

Love
Lori

To me, the question comes down to - do animals have souls? I believe that since dogs, cats, and other animals have the same capacity to love, grieve and feel self-awareness as humans do, then if humans have souls so do other animals.

How can we know if living things have souls? There is no sure way. It has always been a question of faith. But, it helps me to think that if living things were souless, or in other words purely physical, we should be able to create physical objects that experience emotion in a laboratory or workshop - add one more screw, one more chemical, one more mineral and the object becomes self-aware, capable of love, hatred, joy and grief. That makes no sense to me, so there must be something more.

All you have to do is look into a furbabies' eyes to see that he or she has a soul, and is more than his or her physical body.

Where do our furbabies go when they pass away - well, it wouldn't be much of a heaven without them. And since, they are incapable of sin, they surely couldn't go anywhere else. I thnk, we humans, have more to worry about on that score than they do.

Daisy's Mommy